tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-316191265933534655.post8272725112171378448..comments2024-02-27T00:41:15.985-06:00Comments on AdoptionTalk: Willful Blindness: Avoiding the Truth of Corruptionmalindahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06233439015219192874noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-316191265933534655.post-22776949258207892182012-02-09T13:37:06.174-06:002012-02-09T13:37:06.174-06:00Thank you, Anonymous 1!
It is also misleading to ...Thank you, Anonymous 1!<br /><br />It is also misleading to think that $50,000 is going to any agency. As you said, adoption fees include a myriad of services and expenses. Even if agencies collect the money, it is often paid out on behalf of the clients to foreign attorneys, translators, and to governments etc. in the form of filing fees. I believe most agencies make $3000-$7000 per adoption, and most agencies are working with families for more than a year, often several with all of the post placements that countries may require.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-316191265933534655.post-4037929728499949112012-02-05T15:11:24.601-06:002012-02-05T15:11:24.601-06:00@ Anon. 2
Monies that often exchange hands long b...@ Anon. 2<br /><br />Monies that often exchange hands long before the adoptive family arrives btw. To make the direct link is a bit of a stretch; its not adoptive families handing over large sums of money to a poor, exploited family. Or buying a child on the black market.<br /><br />Frankly exploitation thrives quite well with or without adoptive parents; in every country, in all parts of the world. Not to mention families that "betroth" or sell their daughters for monetary gain in many parts of the world.<br /><br />Is that too due to adoptive fees?<br /><br />And what of children with disabilities? Are they too exploited at the hands of exagerrated fees?<br /><br />Right now SN children account for 60% of Chinese adoptions. Are they being sold?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-316191265933534655.post-86999877907308648572012-02-02T14:28:50.649-06:002012-02-02T14:28:50.649-06:00"China has always had one of the least expens..."China has always had one of the least expensive IA adoption programs(in total) and yet corruption and issues are present. Are those too due to exaggerated fees? "<br /><br />Yes. Do you think people coerce or steal children for a motivation other than money? Do you know how much money 3000 USD "in clean unwrinkled and unmarked bills" is in developing areas of China and Northern Vietnam?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-316191265933534655.post-28838486340189305222012-02-01T15:00:53.450-06:002012-02-01T15:00:53.450-06:00(sigh)
Comparing adoption fees to willfull blinde...(sigh)<br /><br />Comparing adoption fees to willfull blindess of adoption seems misleading to me.<br /><br />Additionally qouting the very top end expense total of Guat. adoptions is hardly reflective of the whole. Most averaged around $30,000, some less. Were those more ethical? Those families more aware of corruption?<br /><br />There are a myriad of costs that lend themselves to those fees, including but not limited to: legal fees, care for child ( average of 8 to 12 months), legal fees, agency fees (yes, they need to make a living too!), Visas, Passports, fingerprinting, postplacement, Homestudy fees, travel expenses, document fees, ect.<br /><br />All real and transparant expenses.<br /><br />Its misleading and frustrating to imply that a family is handing over $50,000 to a poverty stricken Guatamalan family in exchange for a baby and frightening to imply that such fees lead to the corruption. Or stood in the way of resolving the issues at hand.<br /><br />China has always had one of the least expensive IA adoption programs(in total) and yet corruption and issues are present. Are those too due to exaggerated fees? <br /><br />Look, I think most of us "get" that a correlation exists; that doesn't mean the handwriting was on the wall for us all and we chose to look the other way. A sampling of AP's does represent the whole.<br /><br />And finally, in this country a hospital birth without insurance could easily reach $50,000 with complications. <br /><br />Just adding a bit of perspective.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com